tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477426980662990948.post3618419677809028015..comments2023-06-19T03:31:07.726-05:00Comments on Alex.Tango.Fuego: The Bottomless Pit of a Tango Lead and the Path of EI2T2Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477426980662990948.post-56530283175165094212010-08-28T09:05:22.725-05:002010-08-28T09:05:22.725-05:00Thanks so much for the comment Irene (and Man Yung...Thanks so much for the comment Irene (and Man Yung)!<br /><br />My first thought in re-reading it is this:<br /><br />"Tango, where nothing is everything."<br /><br />Or something like that. I think it's important for all of us leaders (and followers, too) to be okay with gaps in our tango - to be able to play with the nothing and learn and evolve.<br /><br />Which is different from the non-leading pits as you say - which unfortunately may be a bit too common in dancers who have chosen not to consciously evolve their tango.<br /><br />Any, I'm re-repeating everything.<br /><br />I just wanted to thank you for your comment, and your original post. It got me to thinking deep thoughts about tango. :)AlexTangoFuegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021896615610939454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477426980662990948.post-36868514396712232192010-08-25T08:18:23.963-05:002010-08-25T08:18:23.963-05:00Dear Alex,
Great post and analysis! In my experi...Dear Alex,<br /><br />Great post and analysis! In my experience, it really takes self-knowledge and awareness to discern between "non-leading pits" and "conscious silences". Our teacher Alberto Dassieu, for example, has exquisite pauses in his tango - he also exhorts us to "dance the silences". When I am in his embrace during those silences, his leading communicates to me the stillness... it is never ambiguous. And it is not exactly "nothing" either, because the lead never stops during those pauses, the movement continues internally and these is no break in the dance. It's difficult to put into words, but the silence that is communicated is like thunder in its intensity.<br /><br />Wonderful thoughts and comments here on your post!<br /><br />Irene (and Man Yung)Irene and Man Yunghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06902209997189563931noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477426980662990948.post-46067227732344275942010-08-24T17:48:13.061-05:002010-08-24T17:48:13.061-05:00Thanks for the insightful concept/comment D.
Per...Thanks for the insightful concept/comment D. <br /><br />Perhaps this "place" is the vortex of pure creation and improvisation in Tango, and we just have to be there a bit - let ourselves settle into it and wrap it around us - in order to realize it and begin to enjoy it to its full potential.<br /><br />I always (ad nauseum) drop back to this definition of the tango trance: <i>"The state of being so profoundly connected to your partner and so completely immersed in the music that movement flows from within the partnership absent conscious thought."</i><br /><br />I like your observation that it is a place in our Tango to be sought out and not feared.<br /><br />See you at a milonga soon - once the weather starts to cool off.AlexTangoFuegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13021896615610939454noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6477426980662990948.post-85877249916554132562010-08-24T14:42:42.577-05:002010-08-24T14:42:42.577-05:00Alex,
I read Irene and Man Yung's post before...Alex,<br /><br />I read Irene and Man Yung's post before reading yours. I have read your post several times, intrigued by something that finally revealed itself.<br />What if "The Bottomless Pit of Tango Lead" is an integral part of Tango, some kind of a natural "step/experience" on the path to leading? A place where you have tried everything that you know, and what seems like "nothing" at that point is where Tango begins. Might this be place where Tango extends it "hands" and says:<br />"You want me? here I a am"<br />As leads, most of us (all of us really) have been there on numerous occasions, and know now that we will allways visit that place, at least those of us on the Path of "EI2T2".<br />What if we were to embrace this place, and not fear it? What if this place was what there is to achieve and not avoid? I think that this is what Gavito and other milongueros refer to when speaking of "dancing nothingness".<br />This place of nothingness, being an integral part of Tango has learned steps, to those who feel the desire to take the plunge, eventually loose their appeal. "Tango is Tango, it is what it is "(someone said this somewhere), and therefore can't be reduced to steps or whatever else.<br />Maybe Tango gives us ourselves back to ourselves, and what there is, is to be with ourselves...now we all know how challenging that prospect can be sometimes .Dieudonne Danghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04681515579755617068noreply@blogger.com