with the bell or the glockenspiel or whatever it is, it led me to believe it was Osvaldo Fresedo...
and it's definitely a different singer than de Angelis' shorter version...
TP on D'Arienzo...I've recently discovered "Cicatrices"...and have one D'Arienzo tanda in a five hour milonga playlist [el pollito, 9 de julio, dime mi amor, y la viruta]...and about 200 of his songs...
Well, the No Vuelvas Maria thing is a pretty tantalizing mystery. From what I can tell, there's no record of Fresedo having recorded that piece. As far as the "bell" effect, there have certainly been other orchestras that have utilized it, for example Canaro in Cristal and OTV in Temo. But again, the song isn't listed in their discographies (at least the ones I know of--I'm not certain there is a complete discography of Canaro since the guy was so insanely prolific).
One other possible orchestra is that of Florindo Sassone, who utilized the vibes regularly and whose sound is much like a cross between Fresedo and Di Sarli, but I am not familiar enough with this orchestra to be able to make a judgment call.
Interesting that you would choose the Serpa version of Verdemar over the Rufino one. My sense is that goes against the curve (and personally, I'm with the curve on this one).
Anyway, let us know if you ever find out definitively whose version of the vals it is ;)
The name of the song is El Vals Sonador, by Miguel Calo con Raul Beron. You can find it on his albums: Al Compas Del Corazon, Grandes Del Tango 16 and Y Su Qrquesta De Las Estrellas. 41-44.
Thanks to your comment, I've just dug into the bottom of it. The Robert Rufino version was recorded in 1943 with his orchestra recording for RCA Victor from 1939 to 1949.
He recorded with Music Hall, Oscar Serpa as one of his singers, from 1951 to 1953.
The one I fell in love with is the Oscar Serpa version from 1955, again recording with RCA Victor, from 1954 to 1958.
So, technically not Golden Age, shame on me, but to me slower and richer and fuller in the orchestration - more "orchestral", in keeping with his early Fresedo influences.
While in Aspen, I was well on my way doing the diligent DJ research with regards to my tango music collection, beginning to get everything figured out as far as year of recording and singer. But life intervened, and I doubled the size of my collection to 4000 plus songs. I'm not sure if I will ever get to the nitty gritty of it all.
The story behind the Serpa version of Verdemar, is that Gustavo (of Gustavo y Giselle) played that version in the intensive workshop I attended in Buenos Aires - and at his workshops in Atlanta. I fell in love with it, sought it out, and play it all the time.
Not to be a philistine but as a tango DJ have you ever tried Portishead's Glorybox. What a song to dance to! And thank you for giving me a good laugh with your comment on mine. besitos chico
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No Vuelvas Maria
Alfredo De Angelis Canta Carlos Dantes.
:-)
I gather that you are not a D'Arienzo fan. :-)
@NYC Tango Pilgrim
The very sensual No Vuelvas Maria by De Angelis (canta Dante/Martel) is only 2:54. This version is 3:33. Well, I'm interested too... ;-)
cassiel
buenos dias...
with the bell or the glockenspiel or whatever it is, it led me to believe it was Osvaldo Fresedo...
and it's definitely a different singer than de Angelis' shorter version...
TP on D'Arienzo...I've recently discovered "Cicatrices"...and have one D'Arienzo tanda in a five hour milonga playlist [el pollito, 9 de julio, dime mi amor, y la viruta]...and about 200 of his songs...
but no, I'm not in love with his music...
Hi Alex, how are you?
Well, the No Vuelvas Maria thing is a pretty tantalizing mystery. From what I can tell, there's no record of Fresedo having recorded that piece. As far as the "bell" effect, there have certainly been other orchestras that have utilized it, for example Canaro in Cristal and OTV in Temo. But again, the song isn't listed in their discographies (at least the ones I know of--I'm not certain there is a complete discography of Canaro since the guy was so insanely prolific).
One other possible orchestra is that of Florindo Sassone, who utilized the vibes regularly and whose sound is much like a cross between Fresedo and Di Sarli, but I am not familiar enough with this orchestra to be able to make a judgment call.
Interesting that you would choose the Serpa version of Verdemar over the Rufino one. My sense is that goes against the curve (and personally, I'm with the curve on this one).
Anyway, let us know if you ever find out definitively whose version of the vals it is ;)
Thanks to Tango Pilgrim...
The name of the song is El Vals Sonador, by Miguel Calo con Raul Beron. You can find it on his albums: Al Compas Del Corazon, Grandes Del Tango 16 and Y Su Qrquesta De Las Estrellas. 41-44.
Hola Malevito!
Thanks to your comment, I've just dug into the bottom of it. The Robert Rufino version was recorded in 1943 with his orchestra recording for RCA Victor from 1939 to 1949.
He recorded with Music Hall, Oscar Serpa as one of his singers, from 1951 to 1953.
The one I fell in love with is the Oscar Serpa version from 1955, again recording with RCA Victor, from 1954 to 1958.
So, technically not Golden Age, shame on me, but to me slower and richer and fuller in the orchestration - more "orchestral", in keeping with his early Fresedo influences.
While in Aspen, I was well on my way doing the diligent DJ research with regards to my tango music collection, beginning to get everything figured out as far as year of recording and singer. But life intervened, and I doubled the size of my collection to 4000 plus songs. I'm not sure if I will ever get to the nitty gritty of it all.
The story behind the Serpa version of Verdemar, is that Gustavo (of Gustavo y Giselle) played that version in the intensive workshop I attended in Buenos Aires - and at his workshops in Atlanta. I fell in love with it, sought it out, and play it all the time.
I like Serpa's voice better on this song, too.
Take care, good dancing to all...
Not to be a philistine but as a tango DJ have you ever tried Portishead's Glorybox. What a song to dance to!
And thank you for giving me a good laugh with your comment on mine. besitos chico
hola suzy...yeah...I've got that one in my surprisingly large nuevo collection...
feeling better today?
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