Wednesday, March 26, 2008

Crossed system entry

Ways to enter (get into) crossed system... I just wanted/needed to make a list...

1] Walking straight - "sneaky" wt change inside
2] Walking straight - wt chg outside (close side)
3] Side step - "sneaky" wt change
4] Side step - stealth/slo-mo/milonguero wt change aka "little foot"...sim to milonguero salida
5] Rock step (left) + side step + wt chg
6] To cruzada with no wt chg by leader
7] Cross footed start - leader changes follower's weight while standing, with no weight change by lead
8] Cross footed change - same as #7, but in the middle of a song, from a pause, or walking (more difficult)
9] "The Stermitz Fake" - while walking fake/feint/trick follower to switch to crossed feet, but leader does not change...very difficult to impossible to lead...
10] Ocho cortado with no weight change in final step by leader...
11] In ochos (already in crossed feet)...straight walk out of ochos to stay in crossed feet...
12] Traspie "side step" to right - leader changes weight by traspie step...
13] Any resolution where leader normally changes wt to walk out in parallel - don't change weight to walk out in crossed system (tends to infinity...infinite possibilities)...
14] In molinete (counterclockwise)...lead extra side step by follower...walk out in crossed feet on close side...

Underlying structure....1] leader changes to crossed system...or 2] leader changes follower to crossed system...

Am I missing any obvious possibilities?

12 comments:

Elizabeth said...

I makes my brain hurt. Just lead it O.K. Alex?

Alex said...

Okay Ms. E...these topics have been floating around in my head for a few weeks (for a class series)... and I wanted to "gel" them on paper....figger'd I'd do it in here...for future reference and commentary...

Followers ignore...but realize that this is what leaders go through when they are learning stuff...eventually, this stuff just comes...without conscious thought....right now, about 8 or 9 of these are incorporated into my dance without thought...but I am into crossed system in a big way...I like to be different...

Ana said...

Not clear with 9], but will try it. Thanks a lot for the nice summary.

Alex said...

Hola Ana...

Yes, No. 9 is a tough one...all I remember is that he taught it (Tom Stermitz)...and that I don't want to forget that it exists in the realm of possibility...

Leading it is another matter...

It's like the opposite of a sneaky weight change...the leader WANTS the follower to detect a (fake/feint) weight change in the leader...so she changes...but he never intended to...thereby inviting the follower to switch to crossed system...

Elizabeth said...

Alex, I was kidding of course. I am aware that it is so much more difficult for the leaders. It is pleasing that you are taking the time to actually analyze these things. E

msHedgehog said...

Isn't it essentially anything where you do a double-time and I don't, or where I do a double-time and you don't? Isn't that the algorithm?

Alex said...

Yes, Ms. Hedgehog, but, it does not always have to involve double-time movement...there are more subtle ways to change into crossed system...that's basically what I was getting at...

msHedgehog said...

That's true. Any situation where the number of steps we take is different by any odd number, so what I said was kind of meaningless.

I did some really interesting classes over the last couple of weeks where we studied a variety of options starting from each step of the turn where I go forward-side-back-side-forward. I suppose we must be crossed more than once there - depending on what you do with your feet exactly. Which is what you're talking about in 14, but there's probably more than one option, given that you can just stand on one foot if you want to while I go all the way round.

Alex said...

Ahhhh, Ms Hedgehog...sweet, wonderful MsHedgehog...I am intrigued...I do believe I may have found a follower who "gets" the molinete...

I remember in the early days, I (we, leaders) would often come out/end up on the "wrong" foot, meaning we were not appropriately in parallel at the end of "a move". We always tried to finish and walk out in parallel. It felt proper. It's nice to now (finally!) be in control of where/how/which foot I end up on - even unconsciously doing it such that it "feels" the best...crossed vs. parallel, that is...

msHedgehog said...

I was delighted when I realised that the leader could just steer and I could be the engine and he could just pivot 360° without moving his feet at all. I knew it was possible because I'd seen it done, but it took me quite a while to work out how to do it without stepping inwards or away.

Alex said...

mshedge...

I've been taught that the follower's "back" is slightly towards/inwards...and the follower's "forward" is slightly away/outwards...

I might have those reversed, but there is a key to remaining equidistant from the "axis" of the turn...

msHedgehog said...

I'd say that's more or less true - I wasn't taught it in those terms, but it would help to think of it like that to compensate for the fact that the leg stepping forward is already towards the leader and the leg stepping back is away from him.